Will God Ever Forgive Your Sins? – Tovia Singer
Now when he was in affliction, he implored the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers, and prayed to Him; and He received his entreaty, heard his supplication, and brought him back to Jerusalem into his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the Lord was God. – 2 Chronicles 33:12-13
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awesome video!
amazing teaching yet again. I love it when Yehovah answers prayers and questions. I have been praying this past year or so “If christianity is not of you Yehovah – why has it been so successful in its spread around the world for 2,000 years?” Got my answer with clarity and simplicity today. It sure explains why even the Jewish people are running to Jesus/Yeshua the christian messiah as he has become the answer/solution to all of our problems. Jason ended this with our answer – Yehovah knows we’re gonna mess us, acknowledge it, confess it, learn from it and go on with me. simplicity and truth – Sure can’t beat that combo. Yehovah is our answer to everything we need. Thank you again Jono, Jason and Tovia. May Yehovah continue to use you guys to help us see, hear and understand His word so that we can apply to our lives. Thank you.
Thank you for this blessing! It was one of the most comforting messages that you have shared. HaSHEM bless!
Curious why you think or call Him the Christian Ma’seyah? Christianity is the antithesis of Yahowah’s will. Did not the Ma’seyah say in Matt. 5,6, and 7 the Torah was not annulled, and yet Christians claim it was so because their orthodoxy is based solely on Saul’s letters?
Thanks for the broadcast. As usual it gave me food for thought in my pursuit of truth and understanding of Scriptures.
Rabbi Singer, I understand and share 100% your feelings of sadness upon leaving Israel.
Tehila’s name is on my prayer list. May God remember His promises to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses and grant her full health, and a life close to God and His statutes.
I would like to share with you the result of my Scripture investigation connected with this broadcast.
I have found the following verse (all quotes are from the Mechon-Mamre Jewish Bible) :
2 Kings Chapter 23
26 Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of His great wrath, wherewith His anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations wherewith Manasseh had provoked Him.
The verse refers to the time of Josiah. The succession goes like this: Manasseh, then Amon, then Josiah. And behold, the wrath of God aroused by Manasseh’s sin had not yet subsided, even after Manasseh had repented and Josiah’s had done the greatest reform of all times.
Can anyone understand or explain this verse to me?
If God had forgiven Manasseh and blotted out his sin, how could He still remember the sin and be angry about it?
The key verse of this broadcast is:
2 Chronicles 33
12 And when he {Manasseh} was in distress, he besought the LORD his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers.
13 And he prayed unto Him; and He was entreated of him, and heard his supplication, and brought him back to Jerusalem into his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the LORD He was God.
What I read in this passage is that God was moved and heard Manasseh’s supplication, and He responded to it, but there is no acknowledgment of atonement of Manasseh’s sin. (With atonement I mean that God separated the sin from Manasseh as far as the East is from the West, and forgot it, I mean that Manasseh’s record in heaven was cleared, completely empty).
The dynamics seems similar to me to when God heard Cain’s supplication and responded to it.
God responded to Cain according to his plead, and set a mark upon his head, so He also was moved and responded to Manasseh according to his supplication. God brought him back to his kingdom. But was Manasseh cleared? (Was Cain cleared?) Will his sin count against him on judgment day, when God is going to ask account to every single soul of what the soul has done and said?
Of what I understand in the Bible this operation (blotting out sins, also called atonement) is only done with blood, there is no other way. No one can do it by himself, not even by repentance. Therefore God forbade mankind to eat blood, …for it is given to make atonement upon the altar. Christians did not invent this principle, it is Torah that teaches it.
As long as the Temple existed, atonement was performed and necessarily mandated, without exception, every year for whole Israel -including the priest-,by the high priest. That ensured blotting out of all the sins from the book in heaven (David states this in his Psalms).
Without atonement sins are not canceled.
Atonement DOES NOT REPLACE repentance. Jesus never taught that. As Torah teaches, repentance is the first and necessary requirement, atonement is mandatory after repentance.
David explains it in his Psalm about the sin he committed with Bathsheba. He first repented and his contrite heart was a pleasing sacrifice to God, the sacrifice God requires first, after that (end of the psalm), David states: I will bring the required offerings (bulls) to your altar now.
Atonement and repentance are two different things. Repentance is for here, for this life, to improve and show in deeds that we love God and we justify His law, rather than our faulty behavior. Every time we repent we testify: You are Right and Good and Your Law is Truth, I am wrong.
Atonement is for then, for the judgment.
Jesus predicted the destruction of the Temple and added that God was providing atonement for the people when the Temple would not be there anymore. In my understanding that is all Jesus added to Judaism. the only thing. The only reason why he said “No one can come to the Father except through me”. Jesus was not speaking of the ability to turn to God, love Him and do His commandments, cause Jewish people have always done this. Take David, take Daniel, take Josiah, take Hezekiah etc…
In the book of Hebrews it is described how Jesus is a High Priest that performs his service in the Sanctuary in Heaven, after the fashion of the service performed by the priests in the earthly sanctuary.
If I hold on Jesus is not because of a ‘feeling’, sorry rabbi Singer. I love you very much and you are top in my list of people whom I respect. You are way better, smarter and more accomplished than me, but here you are not correct.
The fact is that I don’t see any other way to obtain atonement for my sins, and all the broadcasts I have heard until now did not improve my position as I had hoped!
This does not imply that I consider God’s laws optional or unimportant and repentance useless. On the contrary, I acknowledge all God’s Word, so much so that I want to comply to all of it without exception.
Thanks again for having given me the opportunity to subject my understanding of Scripture to criticism and test. Please feel free to criticize my opinions in all possible ways, cause it is only the Truth that interests me.
There needs to be more on this topic. For instance ; what’s in it for the victim of all these perpetrators of sin/evil ? A little girl is kidnapped by a pedophile, raped , tortured, murdered, buried in a shallow grave. The mother is so distraught, she commits suicide. The father suffers from a recurring nightmare of his failure to protect his family that he can no longer function and provide for the remaining members of his family … enough !
But, all is well … the pedophile can ask for and receive forgiveness … kinda makes me think of Rabbi Singers story of Eichmann (?) receiving Christ two days before his execution. What’s in it for the 6 million ?
Will the Royal Law be implemented. David
David, if we think of the first baby of Bathsheba. or of Uriah, or of Naboth, whose vineyard Jezebel seized, or of Abel, or of Ahimelek, the priest of Nob whom Saul ordered to be killed, the Bible does not tell us much about what was in for them. These were all victims of other people, and among the aggressors are names such as king David!
About David we know that Nathan declared to him: The Lord has forgiven your sin. But what was in for Uriah who lay dead? And for the little baby?
It is true that David was not left unpunished. Together with the forgiveness, Nathan declared to him what the consequences of his transgression were.
However, while he was forgiven, we are given no clue about how Uriah or the baby felt about it, or what’s in for them.
2 Kings Chapter 23
26 Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of His great wrath, wherewith His anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations wherewith Manasseh had provoked Him.
The verse refers to the time of Josiah. The succession goes like this: Manasseh, then Amon, then Josiah. And behold, the wrath of God aroused by Manasseh’s sin had not yet subsided, even after Manasseh had repented and Josiah’s had done the greatest reform of all times.
Can anyone understand or explain this verse to me?
If God had forgiven Manasseh and blotted out his sin, how could He still remember the sin and be angry about it?
My take on this.
After reading the above verse it appears to me Gods wrath was kindled against Judah because Judah, unlike Manasseh, did not repent but instead continued on the wrong path.
This makes me curious as to whether one of my favourite verses in Tanakh would fall into this category (Judges 16:28-30):
“And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.”
Hi Scott, my take is that yes, Samson’s plea falls in the same category.
God answers to each person according to the persons’s own words and pleas. Cain said:”My chastisement is too hard to bear, now everyone who finds me will kill me”, Accordingly, God placed a mark on his forehead so that he would not be killed.
Manasseh humbled himself and presented a supplication to God. When God brought him back to his kingdom, Manasseh knew that the LORD was God. This makes me think that Manasseh had asked to be brought back to his kingdom.
The plea of Samson was: “Let me die with the Philistines”, and this is exactly what he got.
Jonah from inside the fish’s belly prayed to be saved, and he was saved.
David pleaded with God “Please, frustrate the counsel of Ahitofel”, and that is what happened.
We have to be very careful when we pray and present our pleas to God, cause he answers us according to our very words
Zechariah 12:9-10 KJVA
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son , and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zechariah 3:8-9 KJVA
Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the [Branch]. For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Isaiah 53:1-12 KJVA
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors: and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is the BRANCH? Who is this one who will carry our sins? Whom is the one who was pierced?
Leviticus 17:11 KJVA
For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
I am so confused, I wonder I the Jew believe with all his might , life that G-d the Father is the only one to forgive without “jesus” and love the Father with all their being,and follow him. why do Christians think they are the only one that are going to spend eternity with the Father? The more I hear and read about the Jewish, their beliefs , makes me doubt the total religion of Christianity.
Deborah, I am agreeing with you.
The questions I am having within myself and also my plea to Jehovah for answers are the non-Jews’ place in this world? I believe the TANAKH to be true, but how does it apply to me? Do not things go even much farther (further?) back in time? Haven’t there been “God Fearers” all the way back to the beginning of time? Haven’t there been those that have denied our Creator that far back as well? There are even some things back in history like the beginnings of Christianity and how it spread through out Europe, and supposedly turned the heathens/pagans to God, that I am questioning now. Surely not every single person believed in human sacrifice (ie the Vikings, Gauls, Anglo Saxons, Barbarians) and other detestable things? It seems to me that God chose Israel to be a light to the nations. For them to share His commands on right behavior and living. Now I am believing that most religions have been created by man as a form of control.
The thing that stands out to me about Israel is that it is the only people group that have a claim that God spoke to them as a nation in one place. No other people group has that claim. But I am not Israel? Anyway, I could go on. Amazing my journey, hard core Christian, Messianic Judaism, Judaism, now Noahide Laws (of course on YouTube you will find videos that the Noahide Laws are from the devil)? I would like a show on what us NON ISRAELITES are supposed to be doing?
I believe most people misunderstand what exactly is meant by NT writings pertaining to forgiveness. There are a lot of figurative statements that are also seen in the Tanach. Yeshuah taught the way of salvation, how one is to live, and that he is/was the Messiah, not that his death was an atonement for sin. Sadly most only consider Orthodox Christianity as if it is has the only correct interpretation of scripture.
This is a great and indepth explanation from a biblical perspective.
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