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   Joel Heller says

   I realize that it’s difficult to discuss what other believe without snickering, but usually you’re much better at it than in this episode.

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   Alisha Akers says

   Jono and Rabbi Singer. I always love when you two are together and all the interesting insight into the Torah that is presented.

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   Vicki says

   In case you are ever in Chicago go to the Oriental Institute Museum on the campus of the University of Chicago . There is a large section about Meggido . Great Museum . Donation suggested . Ten dollars .

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   elskid says

   I can’t share this pod cast with people who really need to start to hear this compelling and life changing information. I thank Jono for providing YEARS of amazingly level headed analysis of very diverse concepts. I thank Rabbi Singer for being the vessel that allowed me to finally abandon the last vestiges of idolatry.

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   Doug says

   Armageddon is a term used in the Christian Testament in Revelation 16.

   In the text, the kings of the earth assemble themselves together to fight – but it is not Israel. The who they fight and are destroyed by is in Revelation 19:19-21.

   A person has to go to Zechariah 14 to know that the nations gather against Jerusalem. Revelation 16 (Armageddon) gives additional information to Zechariah 14 – because Revelation 16 does not say to fight Israel in the text of Revelation. Revelation 16 is to present the dynamics of the Zechariah 14 event, which Revelation 16 and 19, the armies gather to fight (Him) is in regards to Jesus returning to the earth.

   Armageddon is a Christian term and a Christian concept. It is not a Tanach term.

   The kings of the earth gathering at Armageddon in Revelation 16 = Psalms 2

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   Anne Simon says

   Someone sugested I listen to this Tovia Singer. The theme of this podcast seemed promissing. Unfortunately, I got to 6.42 minutes and couldn’t stand the stupid behavior anymore. Sounded like haters more than scholars to me.

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   jono vandor says

   Anne, thank you for your comment. May I suggest you persevere, while we did have some fun at the start of this program the content does get more serious and very enlightening.

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   David says

   Tovia is laughing at Christians but he doesn’t realize that Christians are laughing at him for being so dense.

   Of course the Revelation is symbolic not literal. Should I laugh at Jews because Daniel has a vision of a lion with wings or a beast with seven heads and ten horns? How about Joseph/Pharaoh’s dream of seven cows eating seven other cows or of corn eating corn? Of course I don’t laugh, these things are symbols.

   Being clothed is about salvation and righteousness (Isa 61:10). If you are not clothed with the garments of salvation and the robes of righteousness then you are naked in the eyes of YHVH. Tovia, are you clothed or are you naked? From your laughter, I detect a note of irony.

   The frogs coming from the mouths are not literal, they symbolize something – probably lies the whole world accepts without realizing they are lies. Perhaps they represent Catholic teachings or Rabbinic teachings?

   I think Tovia is reading Left Behind and thinking it represents Christian theology? THAT’S FICTION! Nowhere in the Christian writings do the words “Battle of Armageddon” appear. Revelation 16 says those who speak the Hebrew tongue are gathered to “Har Meggido” before the seventh vial is poured out – most probably as a place of refuge or protection. Who speaks/spoke the Hebrew language? Israelites, the line of Abraham/Isaac/Jacob are gathered to some place referred to as Har Meggido before the LORD’s day. It does NOT say they are gathered to fight in the battle. There are two gatherings – the kings of the earth etc. (v14) and those who speak/spoke Hebrew (v16). Where then is the battle? The battle probably encompasses/subdues the whole world. Har means mountain/hill, but there is no mountain or hill at the Israelite location of Meggido, so this is certainly referring to somewhere else. Since all Prophecy uses symbology, perhaps we can use the Daniel 2 reference to a stone cut without hands which grows and fills the earth. This stone becomes a mountain and it represents a kingdom/government. Therefore, Har/Mountain refers to a government. Meggido means the place of the crowds/people. Is the battle something already past (WWI/WWII) or is it something even worse yet to come?

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   Kalevp says

   Get real boys enough of the comedy turning off this way