Rabbi Tovia Singer – Why is Ezekiel’s King of Tyre a Covering Cherib?
“You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you. By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, and you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones.” Ezekiel 28:14-16
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Holy ground?
Yes it seems so. Oh my gosh, Rabbi Singer’s humility was literally felt on this end. Thank you – however through truth2u and spiritual babies YHWH has found me and brought me out, to which I am overwhelmingly grateful! My faith is truly built on a foundational rock that can not be moved.
Loved the comment you made saying “carelessness will exist, rebellion will not”, explains a lot.
Please, I do not mean to offend, but how do you, Rabbi Singer, know you are from the priesthood of Arron for sure, I thought all such geanologies were lost? And if not lost, than please explain the priesthood of Zadok. I will ck out your site, you may have covered this topic there.
In complete praise for YHWH, thank you
Thank you for bringing up my question. G’day Jono! The show was packed
with meat. I have to listen again and digest. Never thought about
Tyre and America in the same breath. Maybe America has overstayed
her welcome in this privileged position.
My goodness! Some time ago I was searching the internet for Kirk Cameron’s “religious beliefs” and came to the Way Of The Master’s site. This led me to the interview with Rabbi Singer you mentioned on this segment. (How do these things happen?)
I remember at the time thinking it was a strange interview – the kind you listen to and wonder why the person asking the questions isn’t listening to the answers. I will be going back to listen again.
I am amazed that I am living at this time, listening once again to three men in three continents speaking and teaching together. Thank you Jono, Jason and Rabbi for your insights.
Thank you for these interviews with Tovia Singer! For some reason YHWH has put Rabbi Singer on my heart to pray for. I am a stay at home, homeschooling Mom of 4 who lives in the eastern part of WA. state. This world is really very small. I have listened to many debates including Rabbi Singer, and also Dr. Michael Brown. One thing I have found is that they ALWAYS interrupt people who disagree with them, I mean the side opposite Tovia. Another thing that made sense to me, is that joke Tovia says about the Mormons vs. Christian and the Christian vs. Jew.
And how would one go around the temple sacrifices being brought back in the Messianic age? You can’t.
Question for Tovia, what is the explanation for the trio that visited Abraham before going on to destroy Sodom? There are scriptures as well that Messianics & Christians say are the preincarnate Christ, which I am sure you all know of what I am talking about.
I am desperately seeking the truth. As of now, my family and I do our best to keep Shabbat and the dietary laws. We don’t have any fellowship with anyone. We have attended a couple local Messianic Synagogues, but those did not sit right. We are on our third year of not doing the traditional Christian holidays. We just don’t know where our place is. I have heard about the Noahide Laws, but I have also seen many things saying, “BEWARE! THE NOAHIDE LAWS ARE EVIL!”. I think the underlying fear that is bred into people in the Christian faith (and is still in me a little) is the FEAR that if you do not ACCEPT Yeshua on your behalf, you are bound to eternal hell fire. I have many more questions but I will save them for later. Thanks for reading my ramble. Shabbat Shalom.
I’ve enjoyed the recent programs with Tovia Singer and have very high regard for him. His “Let’s Get Biblical” series was very helpful as I was separating from church, Jesus, “New Testament,” etc.
In the most recent program he briefly discussed his views of Tyre and its importance, all of which was quite interesting. However, the initial question that was posed to him was “Why is Ezekiel’s King of Tyre a Covering Cherib [sic]?” Unfortunately, IMO, R. Singer glossed over the critical language of the passage (Ezekiel 28:11-19) without providing a solid answer to the question.
Let me state that I don’t believe this passage supports the Christian doctrine of “Satan, the fallen cherub.” However, in order to do justice to the passage and clearly demonstrate that it doesn’t mean what so many assume it means, one must carefully address all the statements and references that can lend themselves to misunderstanding.
For instance, in the preceding part of chapter 28 the “prince” of Tyre is twice stated to be “a man, not God.” The rest of the context of that section fits perfectly with the actions of a human ruler (and I don’t believe vv. 1-10 are used in support of the “Satan” doctrine.)
However, the passage in question begins by speaking of the “king” of Tyre and the language used in reference to him is strikingly different from the discussion of the “prince.” There are a number of statements that it would be very helpful for R. Singer to address and clarify, if he would be willing. Here are a few of them (quotes from JPS with emphasis added):
Thou seal most accurate, full of wisdom, and PERFECT IN BEAUTY (v. 12)
thou wast IN EDEN the garden of God (v. 13)
every precious stone was THY COVERING (v. 13)
in the day that thou wast CREATED (v. 13)
Thou wast the far-covering CHERUB (v. 14)
Thou wast PERFECT in thy ways from the day that thou wast CREATED (v. 15)
I have destroyed thee, O covering CHERUB, from the midst of the stones of fire (v. 16)
thou hast profaned THY SANCTUARIES (v. 18)
It’s no secret how these and other statements are interpreted in Christianity. But in his brief explanation (admittedly limited by broadcast time) R. Singer simply attributed them to Tyre’s involvement in the building of the first temple. I don’t think any Satan-fearing person would be convinced by such a cursory analysis of this passage.
Again, I have high regard for R. Singer and sincerely appreciate his enlightening material. Just wish this topic could have been covered more comprehensively on the air. Is there any chance you could persuade him to cover this material in more detail in a future broadcast?
Sometimes I am quite insecure about my studying because of a few different things:
1. What I find is so contrary to what I was taught, for so many years, and
2. I don’t read Hebrew, and sometimes spend hours on just one piece of text, trying to make sure I am understanding correctly and fully what the words are truly conveying.
Leviticus 16 contains a xtian ‘sacred cow’, that in my study, was teetering back and forth, looking as though it was going to fall…with only my insecurity about my interpretation of the Hebrew, keeping it up.
Thanks to this video, that ‘sacred cow’ fell and smashed for ever, into a million little bits.
And I am a little more free. And a little more secure in my study, and my interpreting the Hebrew words, with the study tools I have available to me.
I really appreciate that, guys! Thanks.
I wholeheartedly second Don Walls’ comments and questions. I also was unclear about how the Prince of Tyre was similar to the King of Tyre. Thank you, Mr. Walls for presenting your questions so articulately. I am eager to hear Rabbi Singer’s answer as well.